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 Post subject: Re: Diagram Questions
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:12 pm 
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Thats good to know about the arrow. I found the correct diode (1n4007), and tried it both directions, still a no go. It looks like a very simple circuit. I don't understand how I can be missing something, yet I must! I wish I could post images here so I could show you what I have...

Anybody have any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

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 Post subject: Re: Diagram Questions
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If you can take pix, you can upload DIRECT
to this site! Upload box right under this reply
box, BELOW (look down when replying)

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 Post subject: Re: Diagram Questions
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OK, finally I found the attachment button. It actually isn't there. You don't get it until you preview the post, and I never did the preview before, so I never saw it. Anyway, here is my diagram without the bulb or charging battery. Also a couple of photos of my relay and wiring.


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 Post subject: Re: Diagram Questions
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I'll check that against my setup, something looks amiss...

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OK, take the BLACK off the diode and place it on the
charging battery. The open end of the diode goes to
the (+) and the BLACK goes to chg. NEGATIVE (-).

You have a dead short as it stands... :oops:
Hope your drive batt. is OK!


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Black wire can be off the drive batt or off the relay
connection, it's all the same. Easier to draw it on your
diagram this way.


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She's alive and humming! Thank you for your help. The part that is moving, is moving so little and so fast that it is not perceivable, except for the fact that the vibration is causing the relay to float around the surface of the work bench. Very cool. I am going to test this on some batteries now.


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Kewl!

I will be around for other stuff,
NOW GO HAVE SOME FUN!


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I have been testing this for a couple of weeks now and wanted to post my results.
The good:
I have successfully recovered several unrecoverable lead acid batteries as well as a small L-ion battery from my sons digital camera.

The not so good:
While this has turned out to be a very efficient way to charge and recover batteries, I have to state this for the record. I started with two 2.6AH NMH identical batteries. One fully charged and the other a little down. I started with the fully charged battery as the source and the other as the charging battery. I charged it fully and then swapped positions of the batteries and did it again. By the fourth swap it was very obvious that the batteries would not be able to fully charge each other. Eventually I would wind up with two fully discharged batteries. So, not a source of ZPE. But, I very good charging method. Now, I am no expert and I may have done something wrong. You never know.

I am going to build a true Bedini SSG motor and try the same test.


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Don't give up on the OU stuff yet, you need to "condition"
the batteries. I know that sounds like BS but after maybe 20
or more cycles, the batteries will charge HIGHER and FASTER,
actually starts showing up immediately but it is like an exponential
curve for a while, slow to start but improvements will accelerate
after some time. PLUS, and this is even BIGGER, you can parallel
2 to 4 CHARGE BATTS and they will all charge, (conditioned is best)
so you get a higher charge rate for basically FREE.
Getting there will have you pretty much caught up to me, Maui!
I'm conditioning 7-8 sets of NiMH's now, the 8th batt is kinda funky,
I might need a new one or just run 7 batts... or run 2 drive
and 4 charge, that is likely the way I will go. JB gets OU like
ALL THE TIME with "conditioned batts" and these DO WORK
on normal loads all the time! Normal Discharge is fine
for this type of arrangement, just use your Radiant Charging ;)


Conditioning takes time, and a regular Bedini rotary device
has to condition batteries to get the results too, in fact,
IMO the relay charger (in Solid State) is likely a better,
more efficient unit for doing this work. Still working on it tho!


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