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 Post subject: My next step from the IRO
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:45 am 
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Hello Everyone,

With the help of some great people on this forum I have finished what I consider to be my first step in the world of FE research and finished my IRO. My next step of course is to build the IROL :)

I have all the parts and have watched the video no less then 12 times. I am still just a bit confused on the setup. Would anyone happen to have a simple diagram for how the this should be setup?

Also can someone please explain to me what type of wire is used in the center of the 12v coil? And when I purchased my 12 volt coil I also got the condenser it was around $4. The condenser only has 1 wire on it and I am not sure how to hook it up to the coil?

And last but not least why do you need to take apart the CFL? What would happen if you did not remove the circuits inside it?

Thank you all so much!


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 Post subject: Re: My next step from the IRO
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:17 am 
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The metal case is the second terminal


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 Post subject: Re: My next step from the IRO
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Thank you mbrown! I was almost cretin it was. I just want to be extremely careful now that I am moving into a device that can produce such high voltages.

I want to completely understand the circuit from start to finish before I even attach the first wire. I think I have figured out that I can simply use a spark plug wire for the center connection.

Thank you mbrown for the help and all the help on my other build as well :)

Take care!


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 Post subject: Re: My next step from the IRO
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altrez wrote:
Hello Everyone,

And last but not least why do you need to take apart the CFL? What would happen if you did not remove the circuits inside it?

Thank you all so much!


The junk in there is useful (caps and coils and such) to us for other
projects, but it is to convert 120 VAC to a CFL output, and we are
starting at 12 VDC, so you can guess why it has to GO! Imhotep's
circuit is probably 1 to 3 orders of magnitude MORE EFFICIENT than
the AC crap, as demonstrated by Lidmotor and others!

-Rob

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 Post subject: Re: My next step from the IRO
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Thanks for the info Rob I tried to mod my first CFL last night and it came apart but it was only one of the 10 watt ones and I think I broke something inside the top part of the CFL. I put some current on it with my JT and it did not light up so I think I might of broke the connections inside.

I have everything in place and plan on putting it all together this weekend. i will post my results. I also plan on getting a bigger CFL Is there anyway to be sure if I broke the other one?


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 Post subject: Re: My next step from the IRO
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Just be sure you double up the wires paired on each side of the CFL.
As in the two on the left tie together, and the two on the right tie together.
Pairing a left and a right twice tries to use the filament, and that requires more
current and all we need is high voltage, hence the higher efficiency :D

Make sense Al? :lol:

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Just be sure you double up the wires paired on each side of the CFL.
As in the two on the left tie together, and the two on the right tie together.
Pairing a left and a right twice tries to use the filament, and that requires more
current and all we need is high voltage, hence the higher efficiency :D

Make sense Al? :lol:


Yep it really makes allot of sense now :) I am getting close I can feel it!

Thanks for all the Help!


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Hello Everyone,

I have been working on my IRO-L tonight and I have a question. As a test I simply hooked up a 12v battery to my Ignition Coil and then hook the Ignition coil to a CFL.

It will light the CFL extremely bright for a second and then go out. If I tap the negative connection to the negative post of my battery it will flicker.

Does any one know why that is? I believe it might be because the circuit needs to oscillate in order to keep the cfl light lit. However I am not sure.

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-Altrez


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If you applied AC to the coil primary (or pulsed DC) the CFL would stay lit. The ignition coil is a spin-off of the Tesla coil and will produce a pulse of HV for each DC pulse or AC polarity reversal.


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 Post subject: Re: My next step from the IRO
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It could be that the coil does oscillate for a short time causing the bulb to light

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