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 Post subject: Bedini Fan...output of 6 V only
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:36 am 
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Hi, this is my third bedini fan, I always get only 6v output, I use a 12V batetery 4Ah, and I assembly exactly as this picture
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii26 ... oo-boo.jpg
Without the 470 ohm resistor..
I use a 10k potentiometer and 2N3055 transistor..
what could be the problem?, I am new on this..
Thanks in advance..


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 Post subject: Re: Bedini Fan...output of 6 V only
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:17 pm 
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6v output is low, what is your charging battery, how many volts?

The output is usually a volt or so above the battery standing voltage you are charging.

If you have a 12v battery that is only charged to 6v you should see the voltage slowly rise, if it is a 4.5v battery it is unlikely that it will rise above 6v

I need a little more info to help you

what is your power supply, how many volts?

what is your charging battery, how many volts? is it in good condition or almost dead?

Does your fan spin slowly, fast or not at all?

does it make a sound?

Do you have a neon connected? if so does it light up when you don't have a charging battery connected?

I know its a lot of questions but i need to know this so I can help


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 Post subject: Re: Bedini Fan...output of 6 V only
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:19 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Bedini Fan...output of 6 V only
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:08 am 
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Hello aguaguara. I find output always related with how much input being used. And I find fan speed reduce if output is used when input stay the same.

See if you can make circuit produce output even when the fan do not move. If you just want charger, try stingo.


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 Post subject: Re: Bedini Fan...output of 6 V only
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:55 pm 
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Thanks...I really wanna make it work.. :)
My two batteries are new, 12V 4Ah..
I have the neon connected..the fan also does spin..when the fan spin fast, the neon light if off, when the fan spin like half of the fastest speed the neon is on, and is in that point that I get the 6V output..when I try to make the fan spin even slower, the circuit just stop working..


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 Post subject: Re: Bedini Fan...output of 6 V only
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:56 pm 
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Thanks...I really wanna make it work.. :)
My two batteries are new, 12V 4Ah..
I have the neon connected..the fan also does spin..when the fan spin fast, the neon light if off, when the fan spin like half of the fastest speed the neon is on, and is in that point that I get the 6V output..when I try to make the fan spin even slower, the circuit just stop working..


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 Post subject: Re: Bedini Fan...output of 6 V only
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:13 am 
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aguaguara wrote:
Thanks...I really wanna make it work.. :)
My two batteries are new, 12V 4Ah..
I have the neon connected..the fan also does spin..when the fan spin fast, the neon light if off, when the fan spin like half of the fastest speed the neon is on, and is in that point that I get the 6V output..when I try to make the fan spin even slower, the circuit just stop working..


Ok assuming the batteries are fine.

when the fan is spinning spikes will be created, as you increase the resistance in the trigger circuit the spikes will increase and the fan will slow. Normally as you reach the sweet spot you notice a sound cumming from the fan. The fan will be running at 1/2 to 1/3 of normal speed, can you hear the chirping sound?

You tune the fan so that the neon is at its brightest, this is where the radiant is at its peak. What is interesting is your neon lights up, a neon wont light up on 6v but will on 60v.

how are you measuring the volts? If you use a cheap analog meter maybe it is drawing too much power to work. if it is digital maybe the frequency of the pulses is effecting the readings, maybe you are reading the wrong scale or have the meter in the wrong place.

measuring the output voltage without a charging battery connected can damage the neon and transistor, you should only run it for a short time in this condition just to find the sweet spot.

Connect your battery to the output and measure the voltage when the fan is not running. now start the fan and measure the battery again after a few minutes. the second reading should be a little higher. Your neon should not light when the charging battery is connected.

As your fan runs and the neon lights up, I think it is working.
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 Post subject: Re: Bedini Fan...output of 6 V only
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:40 pm 
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It's charging now!!
Thank you very much...My First free Energy Device its Aliveee... :o

I still have one question, when I try to measure the Output Voltage without the charging battery, it's measure 6V, thats with the Neon Light and the noise of the fan.
After I connected the battery that I wanna charge the voltage started at 11.6 V, and goes up to 12.6 V...
It means is working right?


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I found out..that when I touch the cable..of the diode..that is supposed to be connected to the positive of the charging battery, my output reads like 15V, is this right?


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 Post subject: Re: Bedini Fan...output of 6 V only
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:58 am 
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Yes it sounds like your fan is operating perfectly.

The reason you are having problems measuring an output when there is no battery connected are several.

If you use an analogue meter they require amps or the movement of electrons in a coil to work, radiant is not the movement of electrons therefore there is little or no amps to measure. Because of this an analogue meter will give a false reading

If you are using a digital meter the same applies plus the pulse rate will interfere with the operation of the meter and give false readings. The best way to get a representation of what is happening is with an oscilloscope.

When you touch the circuit you act a little like a capacitor and so the meters can get a reading although it probably wont be accurate. the normal output from a fan running on 12v is in the region of 120v, this can be seen on a scope.
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