Imhotep's Lab Interactive FAQ

Two answers off topic - non on topic J

Is this fan DC? Does it have Bifilar windings?

If not then get a new fan - its easier, if you order the one Imhotep suggested _ especially if its your first time -

Like tony robins said - if you want the same results - you must replicate the situation with the exact same process materials and design.

Does this help?

when i am done moving this week - i will post pictures, component specs and schematic for you to replicate it - it runs off of a 9 volt battery; it was my first attempt and last - as im going thru a messy seperation court battle! dont have time right now

Thanks for answer Derrick!

I have exerzized' on a fan-type exacly like Imhoteps examle - so it is kind of the second time' - but still I am a NEWBIE! so I am not quite sure if my answeres is correct.

Well - I thought the fan was/is for PC-use - but now I see it is a AC50Hz

New fan - well - I live in Denmark so Radioshack' is not around the corner - should be possible to find components or similar a bit closer...

or ... might go for replicating a 'magnetgenerator' : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf1IesrHBh0 - what do you think?

Thanks a lot Derrick!

and - OhMy' - very best wishes for you and your lovedones'!!!

There is no reason why an AC fan cannot be used, given it has similar layout/characteristics as a DC one.

You need a stator, magnets on the rotor to match stators pole and a bit of time!

Show us a pic of stator and rotor, perhaps something can be configured. I looked online last night at a motorbikes magneto, basically its alternator. Bugger me if this wouldnt make a wicked fan.

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgu ... n%26sa%3DN

Ren - did you see.
http://www.virtualworks.dk/energy/DSC_55112.jpg
http://www.virtualworks.dk/energy/DSC_55172.jpg
http://www.virtualworks.dk/energy/DSC_55182.jpg
http://www.virtualworks.dk/energy/DSC_55092.jpg
J

Hi gang,

I figure if he is just starting out then it would be better to start with the first working simpler design ( ) DC setup and progressing from there - but im sure you all will help him with the setup regardless as you all did for me

Hi John,
LOL ... i actually made that one with my son - it didnt work - the magnet field overwhelms the motor and creates to much interference - no motive action or electricity manifested. (i think my magnets were a little bigger than the ones on the video though)

However, smaller magnets and a far more superior bilar generating motor may produce the desired results with less field interference.

I am actually considering the following one as my son is into this one and Jaun seems very upfront, sincere and supportive of his design - its to simple - Juan Moran from mexico, the Device Creator and also discovered a certain phenomina a few years back; if i read some other peoples feed back correctly - he is giving the design and concept away for free of charge to the world - you can email him and he will actually chat with you about it and help - just like imhotep - it would be nice if it is as fruitful; regardless its fun quality time for me and my little man !

Juans explanation and design seem viable - i had done similar experiments with mumetals when i was schooling for telecommunications engineering a few years back at NAIT in Canada - never thought of utilizing it at the time - shame on me:

Here is the link (i used babblefish to translate the pages and his emails):
Design Site: http://freedom.over-blog.es/
Translated to english: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffreedom.over-blog.es%2F&lp=es_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

Also, Thank you for the kind regards Johnekroll - have fun and good luck - it does work but it takes time, planning and testing - i suggest reading Walter Russel, Viktor Schauburger, etc if you are really into honest comprehendable mind blowing energy science and knowledge:

http://www.4shared.com/dir/10166557/c873cadb/Walter_Russell.html
Password is - forgottengenius

Anyway, gotta go back to work - ciao for now everyone

Very nice reference, thanks . I made a thread in energeticforum with info from your post .

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable ... #post47916

Hi all,

This is my first post so be gentle, I've had an interest in so called "Free Energy" for a while now all started about 12 months ago when I started researching wind generators for my mothers farm. hmmm Well after 12 months of research and reading on these things, my eyes have been well and truely opened on whats been happening over the past hundred years with electricity and power generation, how blind most of us are !!! WOW.

This is my first foray into learning more about radiant energy and hopefully the first project of many more to come.

So being a comlpete beginner with radiant energy I've started with this project and have built my first "fan charger". My problem is its very slow at charging ... unfortunately in my haste to get into the project i ripped off the sticker and cant find it, so the actual current is unknown, i suspect its very low seeing its a cheapie "generic" fan so im guessing around 80 mA. On testing the resistance through the coils i was getting approx 56.5ohms so not sure if that answers anything or can help in determining the rating (approximately at least)

What my question centres around is the mA rating of the fans used. Logically my mind tells me that the higher mA rating the fan has, the better voltage you get out of it and in turn a quicker charge time. I maybe wrong and it maybe just the number of turns in the coils.

A few question I have in regards to this are:

• Is there a point where this mA is too high? I noticed my local supplier have fans at 320 & 380 mA which would most likely be a close match to yours and also a blower with a input current of 860 mA.
• You have stated a 320 mA fan was what you use, was this due to the windings or the current it takes or even the combination of both, or was it just the fact adding the post was easy. Personally as far as the 4th pole goes, I found a simple tube of SuperGlue and the end of a diode the answer on this one

Being in Australia I dont have access to radio shack so, my next best bet is items #YX-2521, #YX-2518 & #YX-2532 at Jaycar which is where i found the above mentioned fans (unless someone in Oz can point me to a better supplier)

Excuse me if i have got my terminology mixed up, as i said im a complete begginer really and apart from the odd electronic kit project here or there, i dont even know enough to be dangerous just yet This really has my interest up though and I intend to find out as much as I possibly can in this field now

Thanks for your time

Mark

The amp rating of the fan will only give a guide, generally the bigger the better.

When we rewire the fan we are creating a pulse motor, and it will consume less power than stated. We want it to use as little power as possible, it is difficult to get an accurate reading on amps as meters give an average reading.

Judging by your resistance readings you have a small fan, bigger ones have a lower resistance in my experience. Lower resistance is what we want although i have used motors with 80 ohm resistance with success. You can rewind the stator as instructed by Imhotep's video. If you do I have found better results by increasing the wire size.

The charge rate will be close to 100% on a conditioned battery (see working with batteries) so a bigger fan charges faster than a smaller one. although the amps output is negligible.

Usually we see an output voltage, when not charging a battery, of around 10 times higher than the input, amps are negligible.

We can use any Bifilar wound brush-less DC motor, remember bigger is better.

Hope you enjoy your new knowledge

Thanks for the info.

I pulled a fan out of a very old unused pc power supply tonight 12vdc 120mA with a similar resistance to the first fan i did. I find that the first one is just out performing it, seems i can tune the first better so for now i'll stick with it. I can now see what you mean by the resistance being too high as once again this fan has 55 ohm resistance the actual size of the motor is probably a good 30% bigger still performs much the same. I'll try source a 120mm and see how i go.

I've also pulled out a old intel cpu fan and while the motor is a similar size to the first fan resistance is much lower, the wire seems a little thicker, it only got 1 start and 1 end though (monofilar ?? im guessing here), so i have unwound the copper and will give winding a go tomorrow night and see what happens.

Thanks again
Mark