Imhotep's Lab Interactive FAQ

Helle there,

I constructed a bedini-fan as well. However I'm not sure if it's running now on free energy or if it's just slowly draining my battery. My charging battery is charging, but my primary battery is slowly going down. Does the fan have overunity or is it less efficient?
And if i can make the fan run faster, will the efficiency increase at the same time?

So are your fans running forever?

I constructed a bedini-fan as well. However I'm not sure if it's running now on free energy or if it's just slowly draining my battery. My charging battery is charging, but my primary battery is slowly going down. Does the fan have overunity or is it less efficient?
And if i can make the fan run faster, will the efficiency increase at the same time?

No one has a Bedini fan running on free energy.

The fan is a simple pulse motor and it is limited by efficiencies just the same as any other motor. Most of the energy consumed by the motor is consumed by mechanical power and heat, however with the Bedini recovery circuit we are able to recover some energy. The fan is less than 100% efficient.

If we increase the speed of the fan we are creating more mechanical power and causing more input power to be consumed. Because of friction and heat losses our efficiency actually drops.

This energy recovered is different from normal electricity and we are unable to measure its power on the output, John Bedini has stated this many times. we can measure volts but not able to measure amps. any amps we measure are likely to be the transformer effect of the coils.

The fan is however able to charge lead acid batteries almost as quickly as it discharges a similar battery so what is going on?

Something is happening in the charging battery. It has been suggested that a negative resistor is being formed in the charging battery during the pulse. The normal chemistry is slightly altered. The result is we get a near one to one charge and in addition increased capacity.

If we add up the mechanical and heat power, then add the recovered power in the charging battery, we find that we have more output than input. so any "free energy" we get is in the charging battery. Total output > total input

If we want to have more electrical output than input we have to convert the mechanical power back into electrical power, this is the point that most seem to miss. I am working on this but the truth is the fans are so small it is not so easy.

To make a self runner we have to feed this combined output back to the source Battery. Bedini has some circuits to do this. So now we have excess power that we can use to charge batteries.

I hope this answers your question and i hope i got all my facts right hehe

Mick

Thanks for replying Mick,

So what I am looking for is a selfrunner. So I understand the whole circuit generates more output and this is being put in the charging battery. So in fact we have some unexplainable "free energy". Isn't the real goal here we can generate more of this energy and use it to power parts of our house. At least that is what I'm looking for.

Ansjovis,

Mr Brown summed it up pretty nicely. No one part of the device is over 100% efficient, though the collective whole is COP over 1, when built and tuned properly. There is an important lesson there in itself

If you want a self runner there are lots of avenues to explore. Personally I would look very closely at what is achieved here by this simple circuit and fan. Perhaps we can start a thread regarding other designs as well...

Thanks for replying Mick,

So what I am looking for is a selfrunner. So I understand the whole circuit generates more output and this is being put in the charging battery. So in fact we have some unexplainable "free energy". Isn't the real goal here we can generate more of this energy and use it to power parts of our house. At least that is what I'm looking for.


This is an excellent web site of someone replicating Bedini's work including many pictures, schematics and advice put into easy to understand language. I think it gives you all you need to know about building Bedini replications including self runners. you just have to put the pieces together.

I do believe that it is better to build the different devices so that you learn as you go along rather than just jump in at the end. By building the other devices you will learn about the advantages and disadvantages of each mechanism and circuit so that when you build your self runner it will be as efficient and powerful as possible.

So are there any people on this forum, who have already constructed this selfrunner? Because this what we want right. It's nice to have a running fan, but if we can run a few things in our household on this generator, it's gonna be really interesting.

http://www.fight-4-truth.com/Schematics.html

Sorry the link was missing from my last post

it is fight-4-truth.com/Schematics.html

Hope it goes through this time

I'm sorry if these seem like stupid questions. I just got into this two days ago. From what I can understand this is what is happening:

The fan circuit will run the fan while charging a secondary battery at almost a 1:1 ratio. The result being one dead battery and one nearly charged battery (while still managing to perform work in the form of spinning the fan in the process); you switch the two batteries and start the process again which results in a dead battery and one nearly charged battery again but less that in the first run and so on… Is the total running time (after x battery swicheroos and both are too depleted to run the fan) any longer than if you hooked the modified fan up to the two batteries in parallel? If this is the case, has the fan been able to run longer because its operating a lower speed? My second question is: even if you set everything up just right so you have a perfect charge on your formerly dead battery once your power battery is dead, did the motor have the same ability to do work during this process as if it were just hooked up to a power source?

Hope this makes some sense to someone. At the very least I would appreciate if any one has any nubers they have collected with there Imhotep Bedini fan.

I did that kind of experiment too, using my joule thief version of Imhotep Radiant Oscillator. The last one get me increased charge for both, look like over unity, maybe just the battery playing me around, I still don't have time to recheck it. I use highest BEMF by setting the frequency to highest BEMF measured. I measure BEMF output with volt meter on battery or powering my HHO cell. ON HHO cell the BEMF Volt reading are 4 Volt, the current look like about 200mA.

You are right, there is a small loss on each charge but remember you have the fan working too.

As the voltage drops on the source battery the mechanical, heat and radiant power will drop by the same ratio. This is a fact and we cannot change it but it has little effect on the overall performance. Remember do not discharge more than 10% of the battery voltage or you will rapidly shorten its life.