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 Post subject: Virology and Immunology
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:36 pm 
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I created a major research article on my wikispaces.

Summary:
NWO plans on 90% of planet's population to be eradicated.
current population is around 6.93 billion.
It is approaching 7 billion and that is speculated to be the date when endtimes begins, along with 12/21/2012 also being a corresponding date, a deadline. Could it be that world pop. will hit 7 billion exactly on that date or coincide? Also, after the eradication of much of humanity. The population of human race will be allowed to rise back up to 8 billion. How could this be so?
There are biblical contexts behind the numbers 6, 7, and 8.
666 777 - Google Search https://www.google.com/search?q=666+777 ... e&ie=UTF-8
The Christian Defender: The Number 666, 777 - Jun 6 http://xtiandefence.blogspot.com/2006/0 ... jun-6.html
Understanding 666, 777, 755 and Securing your Virtual Hosts | CMS Bloke http://www.cmsbloke.com/understanding-file-permissions/
666, 777, 888 and Man's Progression http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Numbe ... 777888.htm
Bible Prophecy Numbers of 111-222-333-444-555-666-777-888-999. http://www.1260-1290-days-bible-prophec ... 88-999.htm

There is virology and disease science. I think people will be dying very sooner than you think due to complexities of immunology and how viruses are passed to offspring. There is a limit a cutoff point. Think Jenga and how eventually the whole structure falls apart the higher it goes. Tower of Babel. Bible is coming true. There is a limit on how much antibodies can tackle problems and when there are too many problems strain on antibody requirements to maintain satisfiable level of standards are increased higher.

What can you do?
Avoid social contact as much as possible and think of other human beings like physical harborers of disease/plague or hidden disease/plague. Quarantine yourself from others in social isolation. If you can't help going out in public,
No sharing things that may be contaminated.

Avoid activities that drop down your own immune system. For example, male ejaculation/*** drops down their immune system due to immune system biochems going out) Realize that viruses are still alive in the body. When too many viruses are present inside the body the body's immune system works that much harder until it can't do much because it already has "too much on its plate". This leads to AIDS meaning near certain fatality rate of 99%. It does not matter how many immune biochems you injected into the body, the victim is dead.

Try to maintain cleanliness as much as possible (consistent shower, use medical grade stainless steel scraper daily for tongue and body deodorworks bar, air purifier/filtration (ion air purifier from brookstone is great), do not have too much *** activity, try to limit exposure to other unclean persons in public areas, avoid public bathrooms (this could involve lessening down your public exposure. for ex, you would limit and lower down your work or school schedule.), avoid dirty places, kill/eradicate insects that spread disease, such includes mosquitoes and house flies! Maintain your hygiene when going out in public and know the importance of why you must do so.)
Try to make it so clean that the body digests all of the disease viruses/cells completely.

Know the benefits of passive sociopathy and social isolation!
Getting a boyfriend/girlfriend is supposed to make you look masculine, superior, and is perfectly socially accepted behavior, right? This is partly media brainwashing. Everybody getting a gf does not necessarily hold out as good for society. Oversocialization, the stuff in pornography, having too much *** or *** partners, is bad.
Know who to make friends with. Is this is a real friend to me or no? How much time should I be spending with this person?

We can know that there is something going on where there are too many diseases on an individual that down the generation line, they eventually turn sterile like a mule. Miscarriages occur or the mother dies during childbirth.

Know what harbors disease and how it is spread.
1. Blood to blood contact (be wary about open cuts on body)
2. Air contact
3. sexual
4. body on body contact.
5. a germ on the body spreads all around to another part of body because of lack of showers, not because of breathed in via air.
6. Mother passing down to new born.
7. Many hospitals are not disease free like a sterile surgery room.
8. Viruses/germs mutate with radiation like Ultraviolet or X-ray.
9. All vaccines only provide temporary immunity, otherwise they stay inside the body, with the body becoming a host while the virus turns dormant state waiting for immune system to decline so it can regrow again and turn alive in full maturity once more. The natural diseases are claimed as the ones that give lifelong immunity.
10. spitting, mini/micro spits

Immune system agents:
1. Helper T-cell
2. White blood cell
3. lympocytes
4. red blood cell
5. B-cell
6. platelets
7. plasma

Vocab:
Peptidoglycan cell wall protection layer on germs

Realize something serious of this nature, is going on. Gain insights, be well informed, and aware. Watch news, read background, research. Spread the movement to work against disease. Realize that they do not really want to teach people in school.

Possible solution: Before having *** towards pregnancy, try to make sure both of you are completely disease free on the advanced medical level.


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update 7:43 PM 9/6/12:
Try to find good herbal and alternative remedies. Some people recommend herbal remedies along with ultrasonic bath to remove fleas off cats for example. Ingest large/safe amounts of "safe natural antibiotics". Such as peppermint/lavender/mint to cleanse the body so that body bacteria lowers down to a safer amount and the leftover bacteria's inner cell virus, can somehow morph to a better form or viruses are eaten up having no host, by white blood cells that digest the virus to purify your body.

Side effects: Antibiotics decreases
1) vitamin b12 body production in intestines as bacteria is only thing that can make this, meaning the drawback is you age faster physically, with the added risk of you getting your telomeres shortened => physical aging+cancer

update: 7:53PM
Refer to molecular biology textbooks. There was one I had used in 12th grade.

update: 8PM
i might try to get a job being a mechanic or electrician, but going into random people's houses or cars ISN'T going to be good for my health


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 Post subject: Re: Virology and Immunology
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Much of your first post I would disagree with, we do need to interact with others to get infection, this then gives us immunity and an increased ability to fight other infections. The immunity information is probably stored in our DNA in what modern medicine calls junk DNA. Of course if our immune system is swamped then we have a bigger problem so if we have a serious infection we should avoid exposure to other infections for a while.

Most modern medicine only masks symptoms and actually does nothing to cure you, it is your own immune system that actually gets you better. Your immune system needs proteins, fats, amino acids, vitamins and minerals to rebuild the damage from infection and this is where your second post is spot on. Most chronic illness is caused by vitamin and nutrient deficiency so of course pharmaceutical drugs don't work, again nutrition is the answer. Real medicine is foods that have the desired effects such as antibiotic while providing nutrition to rebuild. The reason why they are so effective is because the chemicals that they contain are attached to proteins and amino acids which is exactly the form your liver needs to make use of them. If these chemicals are put into your body in a "concentrated pharmaceutical form" your liver is swamped and cannot effectively use them causing poisoning ie side effects and that is if your liver can actually process them.

Most of the rest of illness is environmental poisoning which is on the increase due to the toxic world the big corporations are producing.

Your second post shows that you are starting to see the answer and I am pleased about that. It is difficult to see the enormity of deception going on in this world and sort out the myths and misinformation from the truth. keep up your research and you will get there :D


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 Post subject: Re: Virology and Immunology
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Socializing is an important human activities.

It is bad to suggest people to avoid to socialize.

This remind me of one global warming solution, NO CONCERT.

The propaganda for the website mention that concert is waste of time, money and big pollutant producer. Look for it at one of AL gore website.


The reason for vaccine is because doctor's think virus is incurable disease. While we know it is curable.
http://www.thetruthdenied.com/news/2012 ... rf-signal/


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 Post subject: Re: Virology and Immunology
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mbrownn, there are many things even the experts don't know or at least do not publically disclose in a simple manner that 80% of everybody educated over age 15 with science background can understand.

there are things in my forecast that they would say "i didn't know it was going to happen, but it happens somehow". Molecular bio can be very complex in that manner.
It could end up in a nuclear bomb type of concept scenario like exponential growth. It happens so fast, that they were never ready in the manner to save people by nursing them back to health. Like a chain reaction that speeds the reaction up so fast in an accelerating manner.

If you let one infection occur, you will have to "clean" everything. "Biological terrorism" is far more harder to control as you will have to know every single little place the infectee had gone to while infected or going infected in a dormant way. Cleaning involves bleach as it destroys dna or "life code". They have said nuclear bombing is a good approach to "cleaning", but they are wrong due to nuclear radiation not being able to destroy dna at all, merely it crumples the dna up or mutates it to a new form, still dangerous or more dangerous than before.

One little infected person out of everybody else, in reality shows a larger sign that a whole larger group of people are infected in reality but have gone undetected thus far. It will be like whack a mole to get everybody quarantined or enforce containment so that the infection does not spread farther out beyond that subpopulation to everybody else. You will have to meticulously clean like crazy every single little inch because infection/virus spreads way beyond that small patch as the virus will take hosts in other lifeforms besides human.

This is based on aristotelian logic, either everything or nothing. One or the other, no inbetweens.
Therefore, you are very likely correct on your assumption that the "junk dna"/telomere extension will help provide extra assistance of immunity. However, diseases are always constantly evolving as well. Once the telomere shortens naturally via natural aging, people will die regardless. Either they keep living indefinitely never getting disease or they die. It's really all it boils down to. By adapting to the disease issue presented, they must lengthen their lifespan past age 80 whether they like it or not.

Having greater population growth adds to the likelihood of epidemics and serious disease.

It is not only about telomere lengthened. It is about food supply. Let us suppose Iran nuclear bombs a large part of the world enough to a certain degree. This could be the trigger, like a nuclear fission reaction starting chain reaction, that starts a major global epidemic battle that ends up collapsing everything because what is keeping up the "life" is weaker than what is bringing it down. Everything follows through (caving and rushing to go through the hole formation in the ground/or wormhole) You have all these diseases.
Dead bodies that go uncleaned up that means 1 single dead body carrying these diseases is like super serious, beyond what you normally would have thought. You would normally think 1 dead infected body not being cleaned up, is no big issue and nature will clean it up for you, maybe it's no big deal, it will biodegrade upon burial and everything is over. It's only 1 dead body, it's relatively nothing. Then under this pretense, you are seriously dead wrong.

Disease is not fought back adequately at the same rate of its growth.

Back to the topic. If the world food supply diminishes due to a permanent nuclear war's effects, and variety is diminished, this means death will get the opportunity to escalate in rapid acceleration in massive amount, having taken all by surprise. Variety is emphasized for a reason. Variety in food or nutrients necessary for immune system will go down. No food for some humans, means human immune system drops to near 0 or 0.

We already have smallpox out in circulation in secret right now, probably already in every american individual in the population blood by now. What will make the balance scale tip? Then people will all start dying quick due to no immunity. All the doctors themselves can not help because they themselves are infected, meaning further opportunities for rapid infection spreading like mad.



This tipping force is given by two things in my hypothesis:
1) you got much more new disease added to your body system.
2) the disease weight on your body or the number of unique viruses and disease types have grown higher than what your immune system can handle
3) By "taking by surprise", I mean you didn't know you were infected until it is too late. You can appear perfectly perfectly normal, right now, but when you get the "tipped scale" (a balance scale has 2 weights on each side both equal. you only need to add a feather weight on one side to get it to tip), you will see a huge change from an almost imperceptible addition (also refer to butterfly effect). Another analogy is "you can appear alive as if you were never hurt and you are okay, until your body suddenly falls apart as in your body is falling apart in separate meat chunks, upon having been cut by lasers all around (see resident evil film)
4) immune system is based on nutrition similar to needing all these special components to build something material like an industrial factory. Like to build a special sword knife, you will need special crystal for the outer covering layer and special chemicals to form unique superior metal alloy, like palladium + titanium + iron oxides + steel (refer to metallurgy/material science). Hence, this has a relationship to variety in nutrition. Another analogy is one single little spark being emitted from a mechanical machine, after a long period of time of safety, with this only occurring at a certain life stage in the factory where the machine parts doing this particular work wears and tears, and this small spark entered a neighboring electrical outlet, helping to produce a short circuit and there is a huge fire in the factory resulting.
4a) if your nutrition goes down so does your immune system, meaning you go on the logarithmic/exponential curve towards death due to so many unforseen disease acquirings that you most likely never even knew you had acquired.
4b) immune system dna junk dna/telomere is nothing, without food to use that dna to form what that dna entails. It doesn't come to materialization. (refer to epigenetics)
4c) you have too much disease load on the body more than the body can handle, so slowly, slowly the disease(s) are gaining upper hand traction over the body in the immune system war.
4) disease load is based on variety of disease types present in the body system with immune system variety being the natural counterpart that is going counter against disease.
5) disease load goes over what the telomere load can handle => telomere shortens. food absorption drops. ability to fight disease or make a come back drops.
6) even if you did take lots of supplemental b12, the bacteria still are alive, they are only kept put down by the immune system, like trojan horses, they are still dormantly alive. it makes the bacteria stronger on top of making your own dna stronger. Human and bacteria cells are both direct proportionally boosted up alongside each other same time. You are only delaying the inevitable.

7) when there is no nutrition/food to sustain the immune system => you get an elastic rubber band analogy, quick overwhelming death no matter how long your telomere(ability to utilize food to create immune system) is then. The end result is super quick death by rapidness due to many bacterial/viruses that could not be eliminated from the body no matter what (refer to peptidoglycan and some bacteria being totally immune to all human immune system components).


8)Disease overtakes and takes over so quick so sudden it's freaky. It was not even needed to be done by a terrorist partly.

9) there are trillions of bacteria in the human body all able to harbor viruses/virions.
10) could it be that cancer is due to an abundance of vitamin b12 formed by gut bacteria and bacteria in general in an uncontrolled manner? Too much telomere? or possession of human cells by virus?
11) hijacking analogy to virus getting into human cells.

12) suddenly the world population has hit its mysterious peak and out of nowhere "this thing/epidemic" starts coming out and revealing itself to everybody. It is out of control! The limit has been reached.

13) there is concept of population "average" to demonstrate and give a good feel for what is really going on. Part of measurement and analysis studies

14) concept of caught off guard. if you are caught off guard, it is far more difficult to counter and reverse the situation than had you known in advance and had more time.


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update 11:27PM
1) there was an incident in recent news of a young ~8 y/o girl that had contracted small pox and survived (likely due to the young age and more greater capability of developing immune system for that particular disease
(i can refer to the exact news article if you'd like)

2) why they do immunizations rapidly across american US population? it is to supposedly eradicate disease, yet they claimed in a past article that they felt confident small pox was eradicated completely from world, but not so (refer to above point of small pox cases in recent times)

3) having a disease such as small pox or vaccination on it, can lead to stunted development, or their development becomes changed and they may get something like lou gehrig's disease (stephen hawking), or they grow short in height. more body resource is shifted towards halting, fighting, and controlling disease rather than growth. They may be prone to other illnesses on a long spectrum such as psychiatric, thought disorder, etc. It is to make up for what was lost at an early age shifted towards developing the immune system geared towards this disease.

4) diseases are constantly adapting and evolving just as much as humans are doing so in their immune system, but I believe that diseases may be able to get upperhand slightly more likely realistically.

5) in my view, this thread should provide much evidence as to why celibacy is a good and highly desired thing.

6) one infected cell's virus can self replicate enormous quantities of unlimited copies of itself, especially when not kept in check and not eradicated by human intervention.

7) for skeptics, please read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic
they were healthy and got this and nobody knew until it was too late. 50-120 million died all in short period of time all at once.
occured during spanish civil war with fascist gen. francisco franco(watch pan's labyrinth film for background)
was speculated via conspiracy theorists to have originated secretly from a lab in oklahoma, USA)
some island off coast of new york, where they released lyme disease created by nazi scientist)

8) http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html
U.S. 314,319,884
World 7,037,720,714

9) ideas in immunology: rock paper scissors theory to why they perform immunizations in america
complement, weakness and strengths, you scratch my back i scratch yours

10) Personally, I am already feeling signs of infection right now.

11) http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcontrol.shtml
Read Bible Book of Revelations.


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Wow a lot of stuff there, I wont attempt to address it all. Enough to say that you have got some idea of the magnitude of the problem. The truth is we are under biological attack as we speak and our best chance is to learn what works to improve our immune system.

Ask why the government recreated the Spanish flue, ask why there is similarities with these modern flu viruses and why these viruses sprung up out of nowhere. Ask why the majority of polio cases come from people who have had the polio vaccine. Ask how the H1N1 virus came about and what is so dangerous about the H1N5 including how the first mutated into the second. Ask if that could have happened naturally?

Now research binary weapons using biological agents and ask if these virus are such a weapon? I don't know the answer but I have my suspicions.

You have much to learn my friend, so have I. Learn why intensive factory farming produces food with poor nutrition, learn about the dangers of GMO's and how they are damaging the DNA of every species on the planet. Learn about the seed banks that were set up in decades past before GMOs and ask the question did they know about all this before they released the GMOs? If so ask if this is deliberate?


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The source of sickness is not limited to social contact. There is the use of dangerous chemical in food, food plants, catle, etc.

There is also pollution and electronics.

Bellow is rarely mentioned, sickness because of trails:
Laurel Tevolitz
I'm currently being treated for several infections including STAPH, MRSA and other "unidentifiable bacterial viruses" in my sinuses. I have had these symptoms a while now, brushing it off as a simple sinus issue. :/ I can identify with allergy, headache, major fatigue, insomnia and an anxious "shaking" is the only way to describe it. What's sad is I rarely get sick... but this has been going on since 2009 when spraying I noticed began in LA.
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Ronnie Mix
All three,heavy trails last few days,nighttime ones are HUGE, saw white stuff in spider webs after the rain,definitely wasnt spider silk
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Suzanne Holmes
I've heard reports from San Diego area of a lot of people sick with "minor" nosebleeds, cough and the usual "crud". We )my family) keep "catching" something here in South Carolina, yet manage to knock it out pretty quickly with colloidal silver, extra D-3 and elderberry syrup.
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Tevolitz
My parents are up in northern AZ.. my mom's been so sick unexplainedly and they recently were hit outside by chemwebs. They had no idea what is was til we were randomly discussing it at dinner one night.
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Laurel Tevolitz
My mother has a new sickness.. it's flu like and her stomach is giving her a lot of problems. She's been nauseous for 3 weeks now and we can't explain it. It partially came out as a cold, but the stomach issue she hasn't been able to hold food or relax. She put it to me this way... "at least when I was pregnant with you, there were massive drugs for it. This I cannot even describe."
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Kelly Jewell-Timco
Lots of people here have a bad cough. I know a kid who lives on top of a mountain and she always has the cough bad. All kinds of crud - going around. personally I feel fortunate to only have mild congestion and some headaches. I recommend Old Indian Wild Cherry Bark syrup for respitory health and Bupleurum Liver Cleanse - for digestion. Last week stomach cramps were going around.
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Martin TheForce OfTruth
Anxious, bit of insomnia, but I had a lot of trauma over the last three years.
My sinuses have been blocked since 1998/1999
I've had a bad chest since I had pneumonia.
I'm generally in good health, take lots of spirulina, calcium, vitamin A, C, D & E and stay pretty healthy.
Just don't like what's up with my nose and chest all the time.
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Steve Mallen
My wife is sick with a head cold or something and she is coughing and sneezzzzzzing and feels like ****. As for me I feel ok but am a little sore and run down but I am holding my own. Went shooting and 4x4ing yesterday. I take stuff she does not, like colladial silver and MMS with my water and take c,d, and all the others. So maybe that has helped. We have had a lot of heavy spraying this last week plus. One day I felt like I was standing under a mister on a hot day and it wasnt water. I was sure I should of got the gas mask out. But did not. I am so tired of this **** being dumped on me.
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Lesli McGill- Ashy
I've noticed within the past couple of weeks my eyes seem "heavy", my headache comes and goes, sinuses burn, I am losing hair, the white noise or "buzz" in my ears never leaves and the depression comes and goes. I just want the spraying to STOP!
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Alex Graham
Teary / itchy eyes, fatigue and just overall fluish feeling on heavy spray days. Never had a problem with heights, though have developed vertigo when I'm standing on my balcony (usually snapping shots of them spraying).
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Hi Roxy - my daughter is recovering from a cough with congestion - no fever, dry hack enough to make her vomit, bleeding nose - another mom says she heard of another kid and hers is sick with the same (school reported to me several students and teachers with cough.)
My husband and I suffer from headaches and I have noticed they are the same day - so either something in the air - or we get on each others nerves on spray days. Which is possible as I get a lot of anxiety and he has ++ insomnia (Dogs sick, 2 of 3 are vomiting and my old lab, I suspect he is having seizures) We are outside all the time!
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Jeff Copland
A lot, and I mean a LOT of people around here have a persitant cold/cough that they just can't shake. Me included. I'm a singer and a lot of my singing friends & I have had this crap in our throats that just won't go away. I was NEVER sick from 1972 until now. I have a GREAT immune system and I blame this "tickle" in my throat 100% on the bastards in charge of the chemtrail genocide. Both my wife and I had similar coughs in the spring that "miraculouly" went away after a few days when we went to a chemtrail free area of the planet.
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Sally Davidson Langley
My son is coming down with some crud. Fever and congestion. I went from Addisons disease in February to Cushings the last few months. I have to keep my immune system in tip top shape because high cortisol kills the immune system. I use only natural herbs for me and my children. But I do believe that 3 day dump with a day break and then 1 more dump day made my son sick,
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Alex Graham
Forgot to add that we've had a lot of snow in CO, chemsnow. It gets bitter cold at night and scraping the car next day is a real chore. The past two times I scraped my car I was very careful trying not to inhale anything as it always follows heavy spraying. Past two times I've removed snow I've been very fatigued as I already mentioned. I only eat veggies, work out and am otherwise healthy. The "haze" here the other day was so thick you couldn't see the foothills 2 miles away. Got me totally drained and couldn't seem to get enough bottled water. After months of putting these symptoms together I try my damndest to stay out of the rain and snow. Ofcourse, my doctor thinks I'm suffering from "Parasitosis Delusions" or some crap to that extent. I even pointed at at an ongoing sprayer from her window and her reply, "Well, I don't know anything about that". EXACTLY! All I could really do is say that I would not accept her diagnosis UNTIL she atleast do some research and pointed her to obvious good sources. Sorry so long. Peace~
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Curtis Ford
Headaches, fatigue, allergies for the Wife & I. Par for the 'trailed' course up here!
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Kat Monaghan
My husband is sick...flu-like symptoms...I always feel tired, lethargic, stuffy head, difficulty sleeping ... :-( hard to sleep worrying so much :-(
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Bhajani Tierra
heavy chemtrails predictably make me sick and I often end up in bed for 2-3 days afterwards -- too exhausted and achy to get up. today was a heavy spray day, so .... i'm sick...
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Nan Bhajani Tierra
other post-chemtrail symptoms: twitching in my sleep, headaches, metalic taste that lasts 1-2 days following heavy spray days, joint pain and difficulty moving (knees in particular), constipation, inability to focus, difficulty functioning cognitively.
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Nan Bhajani Tierra
and... my boyfriend and i started talking about our *big* fights a while back, and they almost always occur after heavy spray days when i feel like crap (and so does he, to a somewhat lesser extent). is it because we feel like crap and are irritable or is it because of the cognitive / brain impacts of the chemicals in the sprays? dunno, but certainly just about the only time we have blowouts is after extremely heavy spray days...
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Nan Bhajani Tierra
oh i forgot about the sinus headaches and nosebleeds -- add those to the list i created above. my boyfriend in particular gets nasty nose bleeds after heavy spray days. my nose gets clogged up with dry mucous -- the spray must have a dehydrating effect, that's my guess. feel like crap today, both of us, after getting hammered hard yesterday, just barely moving - no energy, can still taste them, joints hurt, headache.......
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Nan Bhajani Tierra
BF and I had a fight today -- we ALWAYS fight after heavy spray days, almost never when there is little to no spraying. seriously -- makes me not normal emotionally, and we're both sick so both short fused....
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Nan Bhajani Tierra
it took us a long time to put the association together. .... when we were apart last Feb, when i made a mad dash to CA to take care of some business, he kept calling me and telling me that he thought that he was going to die -- very unusual -- like what the heck is going on -- and I'm more than 1,000 miles away ... finally he figures out that all the horrific nightmares he was having and feeling so horrible during the day was correlated with the heavy chemtrailing around Albuquerque, where he was staying....
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Mike Ecstasio Nurse
I've got 12 years worth of personal medical reviews on my health problems (literally dozens of folders covering 100's of tests). I've been fighting on uphill battle since 1998 and although currently I have been assigned 65% disability I have still not received a diagnosis as such, only the diagnosis of my symptoms. All the specialists I have seen are baffled by my symptoms and by my bio-chemistry blood results. I could fill this page with the amount of "ailments" I suffer from and with the studies of said ailments from simple blood test, to highly invasive and aggressive medical testing. I've been kept in hospital several times over night for observation and even for periods as long as two weeks at a time. Still no answers as to what is provoking my condition. If you intend on doing an article about this subject Roxy Lopez please do let me know as I will happily provide you with my full case history if I deem the cause just. I am not going in to any major detail here as I have had to explain it so many times to so many people I frankly find it tedious. Needless to say my bio-chemistry is baffling and my symptoms include (all backed with official medical reports, NOT psychosomatic) among other things: passive fevers (recorded by myself and medical personal, regularly hitting 38-39ºc for a few minutes then dropping back to normal), rapid weight loss and gain (I gain and lose around 10 kilos in as little as a week, regularly), dizziness and balance problems, bad blood chemistry (white blood cell count is similar to somebody with cancer or a severe infection and never drops to normal levels), "bilateral vestibular hiperreflexia", falling unconscious, heart palpitations (no doubt down to anxiety from other symptoms)....really...the list goes on and on and on........
Dec 11, 2011 · Like · 1 · Remove

Elizabeth A. Dossano
metal tastes, cramps, electric vibrations in body during day or night, very " vibrating " body, ringing in the ears, exhaustness some days, very agressive on some days ( spraying days muc more) anxiety, tachicardy, joint pains, muscles pains, do i continue?
Dec 11, 2011 · Like · 4 · Remove

Bertha Quayle
Yes been tired for months and keep getting breathing problems over the past year . Gets far worse after heavy spray days ! I have land and a very large garden that I maintain, I now have to stay in to keep out of the way on days they are spraying. Even then I have breathing problems !! Gets me down !!
Dec 12, 2011 · Like · 3 · Remove

Rich Smotzer
pain days feels like top part of body wants to crush lower part of body
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Izora Woods Post
Today after walking in the chemtrail soup I have a headache - severe, back ache, numbness and tingling with lightheadedness - I had to lay down and this is unusual (used to be anyway) Black trails are very obvious now - they are either laid down white and turn grey or laid down brownish black. Blend in to a point and looks like shadows - but they are the same shape as othere chemcouds i.e. they disperse in the same patterns
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Curtis Ford
My symptoms of late (months) : 1-Lost interest in food and eating, Seems a waste of time and money. 2-Feeling 'presences' & seeing objects/energy in my periphreal. 3-Unexplainable excitement and energy. 4-Hearing is waaaay better than previous. 5-muscle pain, back-pain, headaches(especially during solar activity & chem dumps). 6- Burning eyes and nasal during & after chem dumps. I have also developed an Undiagnosable Urtecaria (Lupas, CFS, Fibro-Myalgia-type symptoms) - hives, pain, fatigue, itching, hurting like a prize-fighter after an ***-kicking! The Urtecaria came 2 years after moving here. I also have Sleep-Apnea & use CPAP @ night. While maintaining status-quo with Allergy meds for Urtecaria and CPAP, I still feel a huge rise in the others.
Dec 13, 2011 · Like · 4 · Remove

Robert Jacobsen
I"ve been sick for over a week. Lost my voice, coughing up crap head ache....it's driving me MAD!
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hemtrails Bee
often insomnia since almost a year, feeling fatigued very often and got a couple weird crusts on my head since weeks. Since that spraying got pretty massiv, the air tastes kind of metallic sometimes. Even i live here in the mountains (lots of nature and forests), things i witness don't match with the nature :/
Dec 13, 2011 · Like · 1 · Remove

Maria Kovacs
Here in Montreal, Canada right now... a lots of people are sick with flu,pneumonia,coughing and/or sore throat, chills, fatigue....much more then ever before....Wonder....Are they Spraying much more now because....now days, the people are more aware of the vaccines than before?...
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Maia Ray
I have been tracking different illnesses with my haturepath who owns a natural remedy store and he concurs with me. On heavy spraying times more ppl come into his store with upper respiratory, coughing, hard to breathe, sinus problems, headaches....we had a time where kidneys were a huge issue, healing with heavy metal detox'es and now bronchitus is rampant here in No AZ...sprayed heavy last two days and today woke to flu like sysmtoms and have had a huge headaache all day, it is raining all day here. I have been on a perpetual cleanse, very expensive...pray that we find a way to end this madness...the good news is I spend much more time healing within~
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Ewalina Dassau
Lots of chemtrails today...emotions draggin , tired and a bit of GI upset.... sinus started sneezing, dry mouth....followed by GI irritation. May be due to cleansing...after the sinus, I took some natural aids and then detoxed big time.
Dec 13, 2011 · Like · 1 · Remove

Kelly Cochran
i feel very fatigued, hot, flushed, and overslept 3 hours and was very late for a very important work meeting this morning, and I went to sleep at maybe ten pm. I never oversleep like that
Dec 14, 2011 · Like · Remove

ham
Ditto in CO. Our local forecast says haze for the next two days and it started yesterday. While I generally have beautiful 3rd floor view of the mountains, they are not even visible from my window today. Very. Woke up and ended up taking a naproxin for the body aches, especially back and legs. My room mate is complaining of a sore throat and seems really agitated. Seems hard to focus. Funny how so many with the "haze" are suffering from physical pain.
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Kelly Jewell-Timco
asthma is really bad here. especially kids. I blame the spraying.
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Johnathan Lackey
i am healthy , but my face feels like its alive with strange prikling , my nose is itching constantly on the edges of my nostrils . it feels like things popping out of my skin only on my face . i visited my neice , and she grabed her face and pulled at her skin and said it hurt . many people here coming down with resporatory problems .
Dec 15, 2011 · Like · 2 · Remove

Yanna Myrat
I am sick and tired of the whole situation!!!! How more sick can one be? I see them eveyrwhere, smell them, hear HAARP's vibs and noise and ear ringing, they distroy our skies, ruin our food, creating dipression, my students are always complaining of being tired and they struggle to stay in focus and the worse, they make a hellish combination with IMF and austerity measures. This affect my people and I am 1005 sure HAARP is also working in ou nervous system making people feel more helpless and weak. The situation here is out any possible discription and out of control....
Dec 18, 2011 · Like · 4 · Remove

Al Garcia
I've been having joint pain. Tiredness.
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Lisa Wandler
just got over flu with bad stomachache - fatigue - chills - diarrea - naseau -headache wound down with sore throat & laryngytis - over a weeks time/// today husband came down. I've been over it for a few days - included achy back
Dec 21, 2011 · Like · 1 · Remove

Ann Gates
constant ringing in my ears. My husband has this also. Some days when the spraying is heavy. We feel so tired.
Dec 21, 2011 · Like · 2 · Remove

ra Woods Post
My kids are all really tired, vague complaints of bleeding noses, headaches, ringing (sore) ears, cough, tummy aches and I have sinus congestion and feel dehydrated (mouth, sinsus). Winnipeg Manitoba - also really ugly dark blue/grey clouds and in some areas looks like thick smoke -
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Maria Kovacs
Almost all my friends and coworkers got the flu and long bad cough :((
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Donald Heck Jr
Occasional Migraine headaches for the past several years
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Lesli McGill- Ashy
Terrible "white sound/hissing" in my ears and dizziness lately.
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Sean Gautreaux
Unexplainable ailments. 2 major. Bacterial abscesses. Sinuses are fried. After the major spraying here over the weekend, lots of people came down with a very rapid "flu." Bronchitis here is getting out of control.
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Vicki Fassett
upper respiratory problems x 2 people, and both of my dogs are suffering horribly when they go outside sneezing, snorting and shaking their heads and rubbing their faces on my carpet. 2 solid weeks of intense non stop spraying day and night in S. CA. Also increased tinnitus, hearing sounds but cant find the location they originate, insomnia, emotions rollercoastering, increased buzzing sensations felt all over too. This is some of the worst we have experienced!!!
Jan 13 · Like · 2 · Remove

Zenith Rain
I've been feeling horrible all week. I'm having morgellons fibers and the bacterial looking abscesses as well. I've experienced everything that sean and vicki are talking about and seen many others too. I'm apt to say that this is going to kill us soon if we don't do something right away. I don't know exactly what will work.
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Grazers Edge
Actually I hadn't felt well for almost a year(strange body aches, heavy awkward feel to my body), but now I am feeling SO much better! I feel that whatever was going on has passed and I sense it has more to do with the increasing energies than chemtrails/toxins. But just my take on my own experience.
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George Traves
My Daughter has become ILL, She has had colds for the last 3 months, she has trouble breathing sometimes, constant sore throat, flu like symptoms.... And she has become very cranky/mood swings, she's up she's down, can't think straight. I'm getting very concerned. I took her to an emergency doctor/walk in surgery only to be told that "Yes we have had many many respiratory related illnesses recently" Its a bacterial infection and gave me a list of different things to buy from our local pharmacy !!!!! I'm like WTF !!! Why are these doctors not responding to this attack on the human race, do they know what is going on ?? Have they been informed already not to treat the useless eaters ???... They are spraying continuously now even on cloudy days, if there's a break in the cloud they are above spraying this **** out while the rest of the world just carries on doing nothing about it...... Wake up people !!!! GET PROACTIVE !!! 2012 will be our year or our downfall the choice is yours.
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Kat Butcher-Taylor
A lot of people have been complaining about bronchitis type stuff. I've been battling something, just not sure what. I've actually started having some mild muscle spasm/twitches. Mostly my left forearm. That's been new in the last couple days. I've got eye floaters, some muscle pain, and some pains in my kidney area, both sides. Then the usual, sore/swollen throat and head pressure... off and on.
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ristine Rechlicz
Anxious for several reasons, experience insomnia for 2 days now - it has been like a milky look outside on and off - it is like I'm allergic to whatever is above me and feel like I felt long ago with allergies. I think people should actually buy masks.
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assidy
ME AND MY BOY HAVE UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTION, AND ANTI- BIOTICS ARE GONE, AND DID'NT WORK! I HAVE DEAD BIRDS IN MY YARD, AND WE ARE NEXT! WAKE UP PEOPLES! CHEMTRAILS! HELLO?
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Trish Cassidy
ME AND MY BOY BEEN AT THE ER WE HAVE UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS CAN'T STOP COUGHING WITH CONGESTION, ANTI BIOTICS BEEN GONE A WEEK, WE ARE STILL SICK! I LIVE IN THE SUBURBAN AREA WHERE THERE ARE LIKE 10/15 PLANES A MIN SPRAYING IN PLAIN SIGHT! OUR SKIES LOOK LIKE DEATH.
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Jeff Copland
I have a great immune system, haven't really been sick since 1972. But, this year, I had a cough/cold with throat congestion that last 4 weeks. A LOT of people I know are in a constant stae of sickness.
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hristine Rechlicz
I've been sneezing strongly too at times, but the worst thing is the dry throat or after I eat I cough alot. It is getting to the point where I want to take whomever is doing this to us and wring their neck. I'm so angered and it is not only affecting me, it is affecting those I love and to that I want whomever is doing this to fry in Hell when they die.
Feb 9 · Like · 1 · Remove

im Stitley
All of those and very SEVERE nasal congestion! I use a CPAP for sleep apnea and I woke up this morning with both nostrils so congested that NO air was able to enter my lungs thru my CPAP nasal pillowl- woke up gasping for air! VEY Scary!!!!
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Jim Stitley
They are now spraying EVERY day, all day and all night. Forecasted "Sunny" days have the sun completely blocked, big temperature drop by mid afternoon, cold and sun covered by the chemical manmade clouds! Enough is enough! Sneezing 5 or 6 times in a row - rarely happens - ususally once or twice and rarely 3 times, but not 5 or 6 times in a row. Constant post nasal drip and constant mucus to the point of chocking!
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Zenith Rain
Last night after doing energy exercises on the sky with a friend, heli's flew over, cops drove by, weird events happened, i started feeling like i was having a heart attack or i was going to pass out or black out. i thought for a few minutes that i was going to die.

i can't explain this, but the sky is clearer than before, i'm doing some serious work but i'm having some strange backlashes and i'm concerned about everyone. We need to learn as much as we can to protect ourselves, but we also need to find a way to force this into the public attention. we need to find out the right legal process on making a petition for public law 05-85 and taking it to the Supreme Court. Does anyone have any ideas on this?
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Carolina Quackenbush
My husband's ears are ringing like there is no tomorrow, and a lot of people around us are sick. we are doing pretty good, but we also supplement a lot here..
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April West
Strangely enough, I fell pretty good other than ANGER about what's going on in our skies. Oh, and some unexplained headaches sometimes.
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Marilyn Brannon
Oh my goodness yes! Many days I am so tired I can hardly make it through the day and I am sleeping a good 8 hours. Lots of arthritic pain like all over.
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 Post subject: Re: Virology and Immunology
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:25 am 
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It is interesting to note that these discussions are springing up spontaneously all over the net, I'm sure the awakening has begun.

Where I live it is notable that in the expat community this awakening is faster than in the general population, with most being aware although the majority is still in denial. I think 10 to 20% are considering there is something in it, 3 to 5% awake to some extent and 30% on the fence so to speak. This is the 100th monkey point where we have more than 50% that has heard of it with 3 to 5% awake. In the general population I would say that you could divide those numbers by four but you have to consider that the vast majority of people here are living on a subsistence level with an inadequate education system and no access to any news that is not mainstream and government controlled. The wealthy have an awareness that is similar to the expat community.

Gardasil was tested here resulting in many people suffering from sickness, deformity and death. It is plain to see that girls have a higher percentage deformity than boys that seem to appear after the shot, the only difference being that girls got the gardasil shot and boys didn't. My teenage sister in law developed an enlarged heart (Cardiomegaly) soon after the shot this being a known side effect of the vaccine. How many more have developed this but do not know because they cannot afford to use the medical system here?

An association between HPV and cancer in girls has been made but how can deliberately infecting girls with an attenuated HPV virus reduce cancer risk when it is the virus that gives them the cancer risk? It is also known that much of vaccine production is infected with simian virus 40 which is also known to cause cancer. Add tho that the fact that Thimerosal (mercury) aluminum and MSG, with their own known side effects, are also used in the vaccines. The next is squalene, a fat like substance that is used as an adjuvant. This is a foreign substance which alerts the immune system, but because of its similarity to fats in our nerve system, it causes the immune system to attack our nerve system.

There are circumstances where vaccination may have its uses but with the known contaminants and ingredients, I believe that the risks far outweigh the benefits. With Gardasil we know that the vaccine increases the risk of cancer, along with other side effects, to stop you from getting warts, a disease that is non life threatening. At best we could call this misguided or quackery but if we do a risk benefit analysis and follow it to its conclusion, we have to say that the vaccine is designed to cause illness and at worst is eugenics. I say this because the elites do not get the vaccines with mercury, adjuvants and the dangerous ingredients but vaccines produced specially for them if they take a vaccine at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Virology and Immunology
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In Indonesia, student are already warned before taking the vaccine shot that vaccine is a weakened virus. Meaning that if you are in a bad state of health, the vaccine will make you sick for real. You must in a perfect health condition to allow your body to develop immunity against the virus, to produce serum that can kill the virus on your body yourself.

Somehow, I feel that many many people in other country do not even know this. Is this correct?


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